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Crimsona
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Posted - 06/19/2003 :  11:57:00  Show Profile
Say I keep the partitions the way it is (name, Fat32, basically factory partitions), and do a quick reformat (not full) of the c partition and install windows 2000... would it still be possible to restore the factory image?

(Assuming I already copied the DISE folder from the c drive to the d drive)

oion
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Posted - 06/19/2003 :  12:05:36  Show Profile  Visit oion's Homepage
Yes, as long as you don't do anything to the partition itself or move the factory image. I believe someone said that running DISE from the boot disks on an NTFS C partition will still work - it's definitely changing location/size of the partition(s) that will render DISE unusable.

*Unless you have the full retail Drive Image 2002 - then it doesn't matter what you do to the partition, and you can still restore the factory image. However, unless you put the D partition where it's supposed to be upon using DI2002 to restore the factory image, DISE still won't work.

Edited by - oion on 06/19/2003 12:07:30
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NuovoTech
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Posted - 06/19/2003 :  13:38:57  Show Profile
I suggest you also create a current backup of your OS(XP?) before reformating C:, so you'll have 2 image files to backup from if needed. By all means, copy DISE folder to D:, I also assume you'll create & test a set of DISE restore disks...

Edited by - NuovoTech on 06/19/2003 14:15:33
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oion
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Posted - 06/19/2003 :  13:55:56  Show Profile  Visit oion's Homepage

quote:
that factory image can ONLY be restored from executing PQDI.exe from your HDD(in DOS or XP)?


That is false. Not the first time customer support has been incorrect...

I've restored my factory image from the boot floppies created from DISE and DI2002 just fine. The difference between DI-created boot floppies and a normal Win98 boot floppy is that the DISE-created boot disks have the DISE program loaded on the second floppy. The first floppy is just to boot to DOS. Technically you don't even need the full DISE/DI2002 program to restore the image - I used two DI2002 boot disks from a friend and not a full program loaded on my P. The method NuovoTech posted will work fine if you don't happen to have the two-disk DISE/DI2002 set.

Creating a bootable XP OS cd is always a good idea regardless.
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NuovoTech
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Posted - 06/19/2003 :  14:10:15  Show Profile
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I've restored my factory image from the boot floppies created from DISE and DI2002 just fine.
That's quite helpfull to know, Thanx! I knew DI2002 disks would do it, but I've been under the assumption for a while now that DISE disks would not. Tho, it may have been true back then with my P2040 & DISE has been updated? At any rate, I have always found Fujitsu support helpfull...

PS: I'll go back & edit my posts not to confuse anyone.
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oion
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Posted - 06/19/2003 :  14:23:11  Show Profile  Visit oion's Homepage
Generally Fujitsu's support has been good; even if they occasionally get the question or answer off by a bit, they still have good effort in getting responses out in a reasonable time - something I can't say for a number of other companies.

It's possible that the DISE software has been updated, but it would be completely illogical to have the factory image inaccessible from the boot disks; the whole point is to be able to restore the C partition should something go horribly wrong. Let's say a virus played with every executable on the HDD - what would the point of having boot disks be? A stripped version of the program sits on the second floppy for a reason.

So, if you don't copy over the DISE software to the D partition, make sure to make the DISE boot floppies. Since floppies have a limited shelf life, I ended up just copying the floppy contents to the D partition (which would probably work the same as copying over the DISE program folder to D).
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NuovoTech
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Posted - 06/19/2003 :  14:50:47  Show Profile
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but it would be completely illogical to have the factory image inaccessible from the boot disks; the whole point is to be able to restore the C partition should something go horribly wrong
Well...I thought that also, tho I did what they said & it worked. I assumed it was a glitch that needing to be fixed? I moved on to Ghost2003 anyhow.
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zerojosh
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Posted - 06/24/2003 :  18:24:28  Show Profile  Visit zerojosh's Homepage
Get Drive Image 2002! It is a necessity for working with the DISE partition. You can reinstall the backup image under any partition, and it doesn't matter where it's located. I have tested and tried this multiple times ... I hate lost space so I backed up the DISE image to a CD, and an external HD for extra measure. Presto, a few extra gigs of space.
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NuovoTech
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Posted - 06/24/2003 :  18:59:21  Show Profile
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I backed up the DISE image to a CD, and an external HD for extra measure...
What kind of ext HDD are you using? DI2002 wouldn't backup directly to my ext FireWire HDD. That's why I went with Ghost2003.
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oion
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Posted - 06/25/2003 :  12:35:25  Show Profile  Visit oion's Homepage
Some limitations on DI2002 - you can't use an external USB/firewire device for creating a recoverable image; also, DI2002 supposedly doesn't support DVD-write/rewrite drives either - something to think about for those waiting for the coming P-5k modular DVD-RW drive.

Postscript: I guess there are other workarounds for making a DI2002 image accessible/bootable from a DVD-R/RW, but according to one source you'd need Nero too... Good for those who already have Nero (though I don't).
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Edited by - oion on 06/25/2003 13:04:48
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