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Chucka
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 Posted - 07/16/2008 : 12:34:49
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Is it time for the Netbooks to get their own section?
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nomo
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NigelS
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Posted - 07/16/2008 : 18:51:13
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Is it time for the Netbooks to get their own section?
Chucka
Er - Ah, my feeling is that netbooks are still too dumb to deserve a section! LeoG has to keep it's prestige and standards! (Mostly joking) You'll know when they really 'step up' to the plate. They'll have some amazing new development in battery life or optical drive (swap bay?) I suggest they not be encouraged too much as they are... (but that's just me) |
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tmt
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Posted - 07/16/2008 : 20:20:55
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Definitely wait to see if anyone buys one. Or more to the point, anyone who would visit
this site!
I think netbooks are a little on the silly side. I use previous-generation notebooks
for the kinds of tasks I'd consider one for. Slow, limited and so-so battery life.
Ho, hum.
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nomo
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Posted - 07/16/2008 : 21:31:26
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Originally posted by tmt
I use previous-generation notebooks for the kinds of tasks I'd consider one for. Slow, limited and so-so battery life.
I agree. The mini-notebook category is interesting to watch, but I'd rather have a P1610 or P7230 for a couple of hundred dollars more and get a solid, "business ready" computer with the same or better performance as these netbooks, and more configurability options. (Actually, I've seen some refurbed P1620s and P8010s sell for not much more.) |
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oion
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Posted - 07/17/2008 : 08:16:07
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Agreed with everyone else... if there was something truly exceptional about Netbooks besides price (the only thing going for them--but as others mention, just get a used lil' bugger like my P-2k!), they'd seem less a pure marketing ploy. Now, if battery life was an easy standard 10-12 hours with wireless on, I'd be interested.  That's kind of the reason why I'd like to see another chipmaker get involved; Intel can coin and start a fad and all that, but innovation tends to get serious with another competitor. |
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oion
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Posted - 07/17/2008 : 08:31:04
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Originally posted by nomo
I agree. The mini-notebook category is interesting to watch, but I'd rather have a P1610 or P7230 for a couple of hundred dollars more and get a solid, "business ready" computer with the same or better performance as these netbooks, and more configurability options. (Actually, I've seen some refurbed P1620s and P8010s sell for not much more.)
Oh, and these are Intel "Netbooks," not mininotebooks. Among the very first "mininotebooks" as coined was the Hitachi Visionbook Traveler series (I had the 3745) in the late 1990s. I can't find that great personal website about the HVT3745 anymore or the article comparing "new" mininotes, but here's one with prices: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_1998_March_11/ai_20384961
"133MHz, 1GB, 8.4" TFT display" for $2000, ten years ago. Dang. I still have my 3745 somewhere, too, but I haven't been able to find it. I think it was so small it slipped through the couch crack into another dimension. But I still ran Photoshop 4 on it! |
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NigelS
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NigelS
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Posted - 07/26/2008 : 11:20:19
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Fujtisu's yet to be released 'netbook' is the Amilo Mini. Someone lensed some video of it in action. The entry is quick and pointless but the thing does show some smooth screen activity - see here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA2V2ePjonA |
Edited by - NigelS on 07/26/2008 11:22:24 |
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nomo
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oion
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Posted - 08/10/2008 : 10:41:26
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| On a random note, I am happy and amused (mostly amused) that these things seem to be running Windows XP and not Vista. |
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EB1
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Posted - 08/10/2008 : 18:42:57
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How fast is that Atomic CPU, compared to the 1.2GHz CPU in the P8010 for example?
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nomo
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Posted - 08/11/2008 : 00:30:03
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Originally posted by EB1
How fast is that Atomic CPU, compared to the 1.2GHz CPU in the P8010 for example?
................PCMark05....GHz Processor.......GMA........RAM
HP Mini-Note.........801....1.6 Via C7-M......Chrome9......2GB
Asus Eee 701.......1,132....0.9 Celeron M.......900.......512MB
Fujitsu P7230......1,152....1.2 U1400 CS........945........1GB
Asus Eee 900.......1,172....0.9 Celeron M.......900........1GB
Fujitsu P1610......1,245....1.2 U1400 CS........945........1GB
Asus Eee 901.......1,496....1.6 Atom N270.......950........1GB
Asus Eee 1000H.....1,512....1.6 Atom N270.......950........1GB
Fujitsu P7230......1,965....1.2 U2500 CD........945........1GB
Fujitsu P1620......2,113....1.2 U7600 C2D.......945........1GB
Sony TZ191.........2,446....1.2 U7600 C2D.......945........2GB
Fujitsu P8010......3,044....1.2 L7100 C2D......X3100.......2GB
Lenovo U110........3,445....1.6 L7500 C2D......X3100.......2GB
Lenovo X200........4,298....2.4 P8600 C2D......X4500.......2GB |
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NigelS
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nomo
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Posted - 08/17/2008 : 09:51:35
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| The gigabyte machine has potential. From what I can tell its performance is comparable to a P1610 with a bigger HDD, but without inking or the security hardware. Looks like we'll have to wait for netbook 3.0 to see if there is a low cost fully functional tablet to challenge the P16-series. |
Edited by - nomo on 08/17/2008 09:51:56 |
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NigelS
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NigelS
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Posted - 08/29/2008 : 13:26:35
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| Lord - like a Star Wars prequel 8 years later... It is as if they are finally releasing all the previously rejected prototypes to the first P Series! |
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EB1
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Posted - 08/29/2008 : 19:30:34
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There is a lot of wasted space in the bezel. And what is going on with the touchpad area? I don't see such appeal in a 2.2lb. machine. For another 0.7lb. one can get a P8K with much better specs.
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oion
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Posted - 09/04/2008 : 13:19:00
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| I'd be interested in a 2.2lb machine, but the technology has to be ten times better than this general throwback to the mid-'90s mininotebook era. There are plenty of old laptops out there appropriate for just "net book" use. But with ultra light weight and cheap materials, what do people expect? Build quality just keeps falling, eh. |
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oion
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Posted - 09/04/2008 : 13:21:05
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Originally posted by EB1
There is a lot of wasted space in the bezel. And what is going on with the touchpad area? I don't see such appeal in a 2.2lb. machine. For another 0.7lb. one can get a P8K with much better specs.
EB
Well, with increased specs, price is jacked up exponentially, I suppose. Price is the singular aspect of netbooks that has any appeal to the masses, I would imagine. But it's a big aspect. |
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NigelS
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Posted - 09/05/2008 : 12:44:13
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| I'm surprised to see an entire Amazon.com dept. devoted to Netbook sales. As a Canadian I can only buy books from Amazon, so this service is of no use to me but I always enjoy the comments from purchasers. Purchasers are almost always very forgiving of flaws and have an 'in the eye of the beholder' slant (positive), but still very informative and revealing. Click here:Amazon.com netbooks |
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oion
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Posted - 09/05/2008 : 16:04:59
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Originally posted by NigelS
I'm surprised to see an entire Amazon.com dept. devoted to Netbook sales. As a Canadian I can only buy books from Amazon, so this service is of no use to me but I always enjoy the comments from purchasers. Purchasers are almost always very forgiving of flaws and have an 'in the eye of the beholder' slant (positive), but still very informative and revealing. Click here:Amazon.com netbooks
Already an Amazon category? ....Bleh.
In general, the worst thing about Amazon reviewers is that they review within the first few days of receipt (or more stupidly, before they get it). When it comes to high technology, I say take more than a week to use the thing heavily under multiple conditions. The best way to filter Amazon reviews is to start with the 1-star ones and work your way up, I've found, although clearly there will be people who give poor reviews for all the wrong reasons (e.g. shipping errors). Too many people fall into the "shiny new toy!" trap when it comes to writing reviews, though.
In any case... the Acer Aspire One 8.9" Mini Laptop specs are amusing:
Product Dimensions: 5 pounds
Shipping Weight: 4.6 pounds
Oh, another downside to netbooks besides my other complaint thread is the fact that our precious subnotebooks will not be able to compete on resale value anymore, which was a strong point. |
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Netbooks have arrived
